Comments on: Amare Stoudemire To Warriors Unlikely http://dabullz.com/2009/06/25/amare-stoudemire-to-warriors-unlikely/ Chicago Bulls Blog, News, Rumors, Analysis, Commentary, Forums, and Daily NBA Power Rankings Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:16:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Andrew Wamboldt http://dabullz.com/2009/06/25/amare-stoudemire-to-warriors-unlikely/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Andrew Wamboldt Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:46:52 +0000 http://dabullz.com/?p=2254#comment-292 The Warriors young talent isn't all that good. They may have some pretty scoring averages, but they don't score the ball all that efficiently. Out of the players that would remain after the rumored trade, you have: Stephen Jackson, scored 20.7 PPG a game, but on a mediocre 53.0 TS%. You need your leading scorer to be a much more efficient scorer than that if you want to be a good team. Monta Ellis averaged 19.0 PPG, but on a very poor 50.3 TS%. He wasn't a good player last year. If he can return to his 07-08 form, then he's a good player, but if he continues to play like he did last year, he's a detriment on the court. Azuibuke averaged 14.4 PPG on 56.2 TS%, which is pretty good. Anthony Morrow averaged 10.1 PPG on 58.8 TS%, which is really good. Anthony Randolph, 7.9 PPG on 50.6 TS%. The guy was garbage last year, and showed no real indication of being a future star. Corey Maggette averaged 18.6 PPG on 58.2 TS%, which is really good. So that leaves you with Maggette, Morrow, and Azuibuke who scored with a good efficiency last season. Morrow and Azuibuke don't do it at all that great of volumes, and Maggette is 30 and could begin his decline soon. When you only have a trio of three players who can score efficiently (then add a fourth in Amare), and pair that with one of the worst defenses in the league, you're not going to end up with a very good team. The Warriors young talent isn’t all that good. They may have some pretty scoring averages, but they don’t score the ball all that efficiently.

Out of the players that would remain after the rumored trade, you have:

Stephen Jackson, scored 20.7 PPG a game, but on a mediocre 53.0 TS%. You need your leading scorer to be a much more efficient scorer than that if you want to be a good team.

Monta Ellis averaged 19.0 PPG, but on a very poor 50.3 TS%. He wasn’t a good player last year. If he can return to his 07-08 form, then he’s a good player, but if he continues to play like he did last year, he’s a detriment on the court.

Azuibuke averaged 14.4 PPG on 56.2 TS%, which is pretty good.

Anthony Morrow averaged 10.1 PPG on 58.8 TS%, which is really good.

Anthony Randolph, 7.9 PPG on 50.6 TS%. The guy was garbage last year, and showed no real indication of being a future star.

Corey Maggette averaged 18.6 PPG on 58.2 TS%, which is really good.

So that leaves you with Maggette, Morrow, and Azuibuke who scored with a good efficiency last season. Morrow and Azuibuke don’t do it at all that great of volumes, and Maggette is 30 and could begin his decline soon.

When you only have a trio of three players who can score efficiently (then add a fourth in Amare), and pair that with one of the worst defenses in the league, you’re not going to end up with a very good team.

]]> By: nickmyr23 http://dabullz.com/2009/06/25/amare-stoudemire-to-warriors-unlikely/comment-page-1/#comment-290 nickmyr23 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:34:39 +0000 http://dabullz.com/?p=2254#comment-290 Man I could not disagree with you any more, I mean give me a break. I think Amare would be thrilled to join the Warriors. There is no other team in the league that would fit Amare more perfectly. The Warriors run the most in the league and they would let Amare take more shots than any other team would. And the thing about the Warriors having "very little talent" once Amare would get there is straight up ridiculous. You call Monta Ellis(20+ppg), Stephen Jackson(20+ppg, 6apg, 4rpg), Anthony Randolph(future star), Anthony Morrow(led the league in 3pt shooting as a rookie), Kelenna Azubuike(4th in the league in 3pt shooting, 13ppg, 5 rpg), Corey Maggette(20ppg, 6rpg off the bench), and Ronny Turiaf(good rebounder and great shot blocker) very little talent? You've got to be kidding me right. Maybe you forgot that we were injured last year. So Amare would rather end up on the slower paced Bulls who are going to have nobody very exciting to play with but Derrick Rose(future star) and Luol Deng(inconsistent). I don't think so. I think Amare would take the Warriors over the Bulls any day. The only reason the Bulls were marginally good was because of Rose and because they play in a 3 team deep East and not a 10 team deep West. In your dreams Chicago because you aren't getting Amare. And about the Suns having "far more talent than Golden State", that's total B.S. Beyond Nash, Shaq, Amare, and J-Rich, the Suns were below average. If this trade happens then the Warriors will be in the playoffs next year and will be contending with the best in the west. Even if it doesn't happen, the Warriors will still be the youngest team in the NBA stockpiled with talent and on their way to contending and becoming one of the premiere teams in the future. Man I could not disagree with you any more, I mean give me a break. I think Amare would be thrilled to join the Warriors. There is no other team in the league that would fit Amare more perfectly. The Warriors run the most in the league and they would let Amare take more shots than any other team would. And the thing about the Warriors having “very little talent” once Amare would get there is straight up ridiculous. You call Monta Ellis(20+ppg), Stephen Jackson(20+ppg, 6apg, 4rpg), Anthony Randolph(future star), Anthony Morrow(led the league in 3pt shooting as a rookie), Kelenna Azubuike(4th in the league in 3pt shooting, 13ppg, 5 rpg), Corey Maggette(20ppg, 6rpg off the bench), and Ronny Turiaf(good rebounder and great shot blocker) very little talent? You’ve got to be kidding me right. Maybe you forgot that we were injured last year. So Amare would rather end up on the slower paced Bulls who are going to have nobody very exciting to play with but Derrick Rose(future star) and Luol Deng(inconsistent). I don’t think so. I think Amare would take the Warriors over the Bulls any day. The only reason the Bulls were marginally good was because of Rose and because they play in a 3 team deep East and not a 10 team deep West. In your dreams Chicago because you aren’t getting Amare. And about the Suns having “far more talent than Golden State”, that’s total B.S. Beyond Nash, Shaq, Amare, and J-Rich, the Suns were below average. If this trade happens then the Warriors will be in the playoffs next year and will be contending with the best in the west. Even if it doesn’t happen, the Warriors will still be the youngest team in the NBA stockpiled with talent and on their way to contending and becoming one of the premiere teams in the future.

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