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Posts Tagged ‘Olympiakos’

Raymond Brothers: No Talks With Olympiakos

Monday, June 8th, 2009

According to Chuck Swirsky of ESPN Chicago, Raymond Brothers, the agent representing Ben Gordon, has said that he has not had any discussions with Olympiakos.

Gordon’s agent, Raymond Brothes, said he has had no conversation with anyone, and that the intention is to sign with the Bulls.

Both the Bulls and Gordon’s agent seem confident that a deal will be reached. The two sides have been negotiating for two years, so they know where the other party stands. There might be an understanding in place between Raymond Brothers and the Bulls, that the Bulls will give Gordon a contract he will accept.

That would make for a very short free agency period for Gordon this summer, which should be expected. He is an unrestricted free agent, and things will move fast. He will likely see whether Detroit, Oklahoma City, or Memphis wants to make him an offer he can’t refuse, and if not, he will stay in Chicago, which definitely seems like more of his kind of city than any of the other three.

Ben Gordon’s Agent Talking To Olympiakos?

Sunday, June 7th, 2009

According to the blog The Hoop, which is paraphrasing Greek media sites, Ben Gordon is being offered to the Greek Club, Olympiakos by his agent.

Ben Gordon(1.91-PG/SG) is rumored to have been offered to Olympiakos by his agent and this is something that is being confirmed by a plenty of greek sports portals, redplanet.gr and gazzetta.gr to name a few. This sets a new spin on the transfer targets of Olympiakos because Ben Gordon has a british passport. That means he occupies the position of a bosman player and not of a foreign player.

I wouldn’t read too much into this. After the entire contract situation was settled last summer, Gordon kind of waved off Europe as not really being much of an option. Unless Olympiakos makes an offer that Gordon truly can’t refuse, I do not see him leaving the NBA.

2008-2009 Chicago Bulls: Luol Deng

Thursday, October 16th, 2008

Luol Deng will return to the Chicago Bulls for his 5th season in the NBA and with the Chicago Bulls after signing a new contract with the Bulls this summer.

Things didn’t always look like they would go well in the Deng negotiations. In mid-July, Luol Deng gave the Bulls an ultimatum. Deng reportedly told the Bulls sign me, or I am taking the qualifying offer and not negotiating with you [The Bulls] next summer. Then two days later, a Greek news source broke a story that stated that the Greek club, Olympiakos, had offered Luol Deng a $23 million over 2 year deal, which Manouselis, the Olympiakos general manager, later refuted.

In he end, Luol Deng agreed to a $71 million contract, that could be worth as much as $80 million after incentives with the Bulls.

Deng then went on to spend the summer under the tutelage of Chris Finch, playing for Chris Finch, for the Great Britain National Team. For awhile, it looked like Deng may never play for Great Britain because of an insurance issue. Deng’s back was one of MetLife’s 14 body part exclusions. Eventually, Deng was cleared to play after Great Britain officials came up with $500,000 to pay for supplemental insurance.

Luol Deng and Great Britain were able to qualify for the 2009 European Championship after winning Group D. They started off the tournament with a disappointing overtime loss to Israel. Deng had 30 points and 3 blocks in this game. Great Britain redeemed themselves by beating the Czech Republic 87-68. Deng finished this game with 21 points. Great Britain won their next game against Bosnia and Herzeogovina 82-74. Deng finished the game with 29 points. Luol Deng scored 21 points as Great Britain beat the Czech Republic 67-63 to claim their spot in the 2009 European Championship.

During the European Championship qualifying games, Deng did a pretty good job scoring the ball for international play, but it is hard to see that transferring over to the NBA. In the European Championships, Deng had turnover problems, often traveling, carrying the ball, and sometimes dribbling it off his legs.

Deng worked hard during the summer to try to become a first option.He worked out at IMG Academy with David Thorpe. He worked on improving putting the ball on the floor and driving to the basket from about 19 feet out. He has worked on his three point shooting, a Scottie Pippen bank shot, and his dribbling. He has been working on moves that will help him become a number one option.

Unfortunately, it seems as though Deng doesn’t have it in him to be a quality first option in the NBA, but that’s alright. The Bulls have Derrick Rose and Ben Gordon who can be the first two scoring options on the team. Deng can play off of those two, and be quite successful in that third option role.

This will be a bit of a redemption year for Deng. Last year, he struggled as a result of a back injury, which came as the result of an achilles injury. Deng will look to make up for his poor showing last season, although Deng has struggled early on in preseason.

The big question is, will Luol Deng live up to his $80 million contract? The answer depends on what you will be looking for out of Deng. If you expect him to be a first option for that kind of money, you likely will be disappointed. If you expect Deng to just be a good second or third option behind Rose and Gordon, than Deng will probably succeed in living up to his contract.

2008-2009 Chicago Bulls: Ben Gordon

Sunday, October 12th, 2008

Ben Gordon is now entering his 5th season in the NBA and with the Chicago Bulls. Once again, the Bulls failed to reach a long term deal with Gordon, who will return to the Bulls this season on the qualifying offer.

It has been a rumor filled summer surrounding Ben Gordon. At the end of July, Ben Gordon stated that Europe is now an option for him, amidst rumors of Olymiakos offering Luol Deng and Ben Gordon large offers. Later that day, Manos Manouselis admitted to sending overtures to the agents of Gordon and Deng, but said that they never made any contract offer.

It was reported at the end of July, that the Heat, Suns, and Hornets were after Ben Gordon. The Heat were only one of two teams that were persistent in their efforts to coup Gordon. In mid-August, the Bulls rejected a sign and trade based around Shawn Marion. In mid-September, it was reported that a deal involving Gordon, Larry Hughes, and possibly Joakim Noah for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks fell through. A source, strongly biased in favor of the Bulls front office, stated that the Bulls and Heat agreed on the trade scenarios, but the Heat weren’t willing to match Gordon’s salary demands, but of course, this turned out to be false. The Bulls also turned down a trade involving Ben Gordon and Andres Nocioni for Shawn Marion. The Heat will have cap space next summer, and likely will make another run at Gordon. The Knicks also made a play at Gordon, offering Stephon Marbury’s large expiring contract, but the Bulls also turned that offer down.

With the Bulls unwilling to trade Gordon to a conference rival, Gordon had to play the media to try to pry a better offer out of the Bulls. At the beginning of August, Gordon confirmed to Slam Magazine that he has received some contract offers from Europe. A week later, Gordon was telling the Hartford Courant that he didn’t see himself being a Bull this season. On the same day, a rumor broke that stated that the Russian team, Dynamo, was pursuing Gordon. The rumor seems to be credible as Dynamo moved into sign a similar player, Jannero Pargo, to a deal after Gordon wouldn’t commit. Towards the end of August, Gordon said he would like to play for the New York Knicks.

The Bulls played their own hand in the media game. At the beginning of September, a Greek news source reported that CSKA Moscow was offering Gordon a contract. A few days later, CSKA Moscow general manager, Андрею Ватутину (Andrei Vatutinu) stated that this was nothing more than a, “dirty, baseless newspaper rumor”. The original narrative that emerged was that Raymond Brothers, Gordon’s representation made up the deal. This never made a whole lot of sense given that CSKA Moscow was only offering Ben Gordon $5.5 million a year. Gordon’s representation had no incentive to make up a European team offering Gordon such a low, insulting offer. It is more likely that the Bulls front office used a media source to try to smear Gordon, like when they sent their media henchman after Scott Skiles during his contract negotiations.

After Luol Deng signed for a $71 million deal, the Bulls had a little over $58 million before they would hit the luxury tax. Of course, the Bulls in the end, didn’t offer Ben Gordon the full amount they could under the luxury tax, making his decision not to re-sign easy. General manager John Paxson said on the Gordon situation, “I’d like to be sitting up here with Ben shortly,” following the Deng signing press conference, but Paxson’s plans as a general manager were thwarted by the cheapness of Bulls owner, Jerry Reinsdorf.

Reinsdorf refused to give Gordon a substantive offer, despite pleas from Luol Deng, Tyrus Thomas, and Joakim Noah to general manager, John Paxson, to bring Gordon back. Luol Deng told Sun Sports, “I’d love to see him back in Chicago and here with me playing for Great Britain. I’ve never been on a court without him and we know what he’s capable of. The Bulls and GB will be better with him.”

Money wasn’t the only thing keeping Gordon from re-signing long-term with the Bulls. Gordon was also distraught over the guard rotation. Gordon stated on ESPN’s First Take, that the guard logjam was a hurdle in him re-signing. What exactly the Bulls are doing with their guard rotation still remains a mystery for Gordon.

Despite the disappointing summer, Gordon has remained professional, and worked hard all summer long. Ben Gordon made nightly appearances at the Bulls’ practice facility, the Berto Center, to get in an evening workout with his personal assistant.

Gordon will try to recover from a disappointing season. Gordon wasn’t terrible, finishing with averages of 18.6 PPG and 3.0 APG on good scoring efficiency, but he wasn’t great either. Gordon was actually averaging 20.2 PPG on the season when the Bulls made the Ben Wallace trade. After the Bulls made the trade, Jim Boylan severely slashed Gordon’s minutes, leading to his season averages dropping at the end of the season. Despite being Boylan’d, Gordon was by far the Bulls best player last season.

So why was the Bulls’ best player unable to secure a long term deal? Despite being the Bulls best player, Gordon still took a step back from 2006-2007. In 2006-2007, Gordon averaged 21.4 PPG and 3.6 APG with one of the top scoring efficiencies in the league. To build on his already impressive season, Gordon averaged 25.5 PPG and 5.5 APG as he led the Bulls over the Miami Heat in the Bulls’ first playoff series sweep and win since Michael Jordan retired. Gordon was expected to take that big leap forward towards stardom rather than that baby step backwards. Still, it is encouraging that Gordon only took a baby step backwards when the rest of the team took multiple steps backwards.

Gordon looks poised to be the Bulls’ best player again this season and he is expected to play a large role on the team. Vinny Del Negro told 670 the Score, that he would welcome Ben back with open arms, even if he is on the qualifying offer. Vinny said that he really wants Ben on the team, that Ben will be a big part of what the Bulls do, and that he expects Ben to have a big year to show what type of player he is on both sides of the court. It seems that Del Negro wants to use Gordon, who will want to play extraordinarily well to secure a lucrative contract, as a catalyst to get the Bulls back into a winning basketball team. The $59 million…$54 million question is whether Gordon will be playing his ~32 minutes as a starter or off the bench.

There is very little chance that Gordon will disrupt the team’s chemistry this season. What is Gordon going to do to hurt the team, shoot the ball over and over again? That’s what Ben Gordon does, so the Bulls probably get better as he shoots more.

Next to Derrick Rose, Gordon should be really really good. There are some concerns about the size of the backcourt as Gordon will be a “defensive liability”, but the attacks on Gordon’s defense are overstated. Gordon does the small things on defense that you want out of your players, such as closing out on shooters. The one time where Chauncey Billups posted Gordon up in the playoffs sticks out in people’s minds. (Even though, if you look at the box scores, Billups didn’t score more than you would expect from him in that series). The Jason Kidd-Vince Carter scenario sticks out in people’s minds, as so many people watched that game where we blew the #2 seed against the Nets in 2006-2007, although that back court no longer exists in the NBA. Gordon getting abused on defense has never been a regular occurrence, Gordon has been on some of the best defenses of the past 10 years. What was a regular occurrence last season was the Bulls weak interior defense repeatedly being abused.

Offensively, there is not many better shooting guards to put next to Rose than Gordon. Rose needs a great shooter next to him, and pairing him with the 10th best three point shooter would be a logical idea. Kirk Hinrich is not a very good shooter and Larry Hughes and Thabo Sefolosha are horrible shooters, so Ben Gordon should be the starting shooting guard if we are starting Derrick Rose. There is an argument that Hinrich’s shooting percentages aren’t that low. Here’s the deal, Ben Gordon was a more efficient shooter than Hinrich while fielding double teams, while Hinrich took his shots wide open. Gordon’s ceiling next to another player who can draw defensive attention away from Gordon is very high. There is no use playing Kirk Hinrich, Thabo Sefolosha, and Larry Hughes big minutes next to Derrick Rose as they have a 0% chance of ever being the long term solution for shooting guard next to Rose. Gordon, however, could be the long term solution next to Derrick Rose. If you have watched summer league and the early preseason games, it is clear that Rose can set up guys for good looks. The problem is that these guys keep missing those wide open shots. For the sanity of Bulls fans, Del Negro should put the one guy on the Bulls roster who can actually make those shots consistently next to Rose.

Gordon will likely be a very good player throughout the course of an entire game, but will he recapture his clutch heroics from his first two seasons in the league. In his first two seasons in the league, Ben Gordon was one of the most clutch player in the league, and also one of the best players at hitting game winning shots, behind only Carmelo Anthony. These past two years, Gordon has remained one of the league’s top clutch players, but he has had difficulty converting on those game winning shot attempts. If Derrick Rose can draw some defensive attention away from Gordon in the clutch, Gordon will probably return as one of the best player’s in the NBA to have the ball in their hands as the final seconds tick down on the game clock.

Bulls fans should expect a circus around Ben Gordon this season. Every time he has a bad game, the loaded words of “midget” and “defensive liability” will likely find their way into the narrative. If he has an 8 point game after having 9 straight 20 point games, he will still be lambasted. Despite this circus surrounding Gordon and his contract uncertainty, Ben Gordon should have a big season for the Bulls next year.

CSKA Moscow Offers Ben Gordon $5.5 Million

Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008

Greek news sources are reporting that Ben Gordon has been offered a $5.5 million contract with CSKA Moscow. That contract is the equivalent to an $8.9 million contract in the NBA, as European teams deal in net. Gordon is said to be demanding at least $7 million from CSKA Moscow, which would be the same amount that Josh Childress is making. That deal would be the equivalent of an $11.3 million NBA contract, and would provide Gordon great incentive to leave the NBA for Russia.

Gordon would rejoin his former teammate, Viktor Khryapa. Also on the team is the much lauded Trajan Langdon, former New Jersey Net, Zoran Planicic, and former Jayhawk, Sasha Kaun.

CKSA Moscow is going for the sevenpeat in the Russian Super League and is trying to repeat as champions of the Euroleague. Adding Ben Gordon to their roster would bolster their chances of maintaining their dominance.

CSKA Moscow was the highest salaried team in Europe last year at $50 million. If any European team is likely to throw some money to get a good talent, CSKA Moscow is the team. They just might need Gordon if they have any hopes of competing with Olympiacos, who signed Josh Childress this summer, in the Euro Cup.

Ben Gordon, since he has a Great Britain passport, doesn’t count as one of the team’s two American players. So they are able to have Gordon on the roster even with two Americans, Trajan Langdon and Terrence Morris on the roster.

Much has been made in the past week of European contracts not being guaranteed. This really isn’t the case. The teams that Gordon has been talking to will pay him his money. The teams that don’t pay the players their money are teams in the more obscure European leagues, teams that a player like Paul Shirley would end up playing for.

The article says that Gordon will make his decision by Wednesday. This likely is just when Gordon will decide if he is going overseas or not. There is no indication that if Gordon turns down CSKA Moscow’s offer, that he will make a decision on what to do with the Bulls at the same time.

[SOURCE]

Manouselis: No Offer To Gordon and Deng

Monday, July 28th, 2008

It has recently been reported across the internet and even in the Greek media that the Greek basketball club, Olympiakos, had made offers to the Bulls restricted free agents, Ben Gordon and Luol Deng.

In a email Q&A with the Chicago Tribune’s K.C. Johnson, Manos Manouselis, a Olympiakos assistant, said that the club never made any offers to Gordon or Deng. The rumors were the result of Olympiakos reaching out to multiple NBA free agents to see if they would consider a career overseas and what kind of money it would take to get them to play overseas. From there, Olympiakos narrowed their search down to players they felt were realistic targets.

Manouselis says that the team was targeting a off the ball small forward, so Josh Childress was a logical fit. They also were considering James Posey and Ricky Davis. Manouselis says that Childress is the final piece to the team. However, it is very difficult to see Olympiakos passing on Ben Gordon if they have a realistic chance at obtaining him because he would easily become the team’s best player and the talent gap between him and their current shooting guard, Arvydas Macijauskas, is so large. (Macijauskas averaged 2.3 PPG on 34.1 FG% during his short stint in the NBA). Gordon’s game is suited perfectly for the Euro game and would be a good fit next to Olympiakos 6′7″ starting point guard, Theodoros Papaloukas.

[Link to Q&A on Full Court Press Blog]

Ben Gordon: Europe’s a Possibility Now

Monday, July 28th, 2008

From his youth basketball camp in Lisle, IL, Ben Gordon temporarily discussed his contract negotiations with the Bulls. He stated that he would now be open to going the European route.

“Definitely, it’s a possibility now with the euro being so strong,” Gordon said. “Josh did it. It just depends on what the individual wants and what he can put up with. It’s definitely something that seems like it would be interesting, but ideally, I’d like to be here playing in the states for the team that drafted me.”

If Gordon was to go the European route, Olympiakos, who is rumored to be sending overtures to Gordon and CKSA Moscow would be the likely targets as they are the two European teams with enough cash to give Gordon a competitive offer.

In all likelihood, Gordon is just using the European teams as a bargaining chip. Now that NBA teams know a European team can steal away a NBA player, as Olympiakos did with Josh Childress, they are going to take this bargaining chip more seriously.

[SOURCE]