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Dwyane Wade and Miami Are Bulls Biggest Competition For Gordon

Sunday, March 15th, 2009

Back during the 2003 NBA draft, John Paxson pegged an exciting guard coming from Marquette, who was fresh out of the Final Four as a potential star. The Heat were supposed to take Kirk Hinrich or Chris Kaman, and Dwyane Wade was to fall to the Bulls at seventh in the draft. Pat Riley, who kept his cards close to his vest, upset the Bulls draft plans by taking Wade with the fifth overall pick. The decision was a great one, and Miami has already ridden their superstar to a championship.

This summer, the Bulls will again have to beware of Pat Riley. The Heat seem sure to be interested in the Bulls’ unrestrictred free agent guard, Ben Gordon. This past summer, the Heat agreed to send Shawn Marion’s expiring contract to Chicago in exchange for Ben Gordon and Andres Nocioni’s longterm deal, but the Bulls wisely declined. This summer, the Bulls will have to watch out for Pat Riley and Dwyane Wade recruiting Gordon to become a part of the Heat.

Because of Miami’s lack of state income tax, the Heat can stay competitive with the Bulls up to an $8 million per a year offer from the Bulls. Where does that leave the Bulls minimum offer at? Pretty much the $54 million over 6 year offer that the Bulls offered to Gordon last year.

Miami is a situation that makes a lot of sense for Gordon. He would get to be a starter, and get to play with one of the best players in the game, in Dwyane Wade. For the first time in his career, Gordon will be a second thought for the opposing defense, which should really free him up for some open shots. When Ben Gordon is wide open, he is deadly. Him and Wade could be a dynamic duo, who along with Michael Beasley, could compete for championships for years to come.

This past September, Dwyane Wade seemingly telepathed to Gordon that he should take the Bulls qualifying offer, when talking to the Chicago Suntimes Carol Slezak.

“He’s in a tough situation. Ben is a very good player. He’s taken a lot of knocks from people saying he’s not tall enough or he doesn’t play good defense. But scoring-wise he’s one of the best in the game.

“I think a player like him just has to understand that you have to do what you feel is right. Whatever you feel in your heart, you’ve got to go with it. You can’t do nothing that you don’t want to do, because you’re not going to give it your all. So he wants to make [Chicago] his home, do it. If not, wait it out.

“I don’t think he should go to Europe. I don’t think he’s at the Europe stage. He’s just such a good player. There are a lot of teams in the states that would love to have him. I just think he needs to be patient. But he could hop and go for it, and continue to start a trend that’s happening over there.

“His game is what his game is. Ben will score. He’s a great offensive scorer, a great catch-and-shoot player. That’s not going to change. As long as there’s a basketball and a rim, he’s going to be able to do the same thing.

Letting Ben Gordon slip away to the Miami Heat would be a double edged sword. Not only would the Bulls be losing their best player, but he would also be going to a conference rival. With a core of Dwyane Wade, Ben Gordon, and Michael Beasley, and the ability to still sign a 2010 free agent, the Heat would be a major obstacle for the Bulls in the playoffs every year.

How can the Bulls avoid this doomsday scenario? By coming out with an aggressive offer. Re-offering the $54 million offer that the Bulls pulled off the table and wouldn’t let Ben sign would be a minimum. A $60 million offer would greatly improve the Bulls chances.

Here is a scenario that is likely to play out. Pat Riley, Dwyane Wade, and Micky Arison will fly out to meet with Gordon. Pat Riley will begin by talking about what a special player Gordon is. The Heat will probably put some type of option in Gordon’s contract, and will talk about how they can pay him more money when they acquire his bird rights. Dwyane Wade will then appeal to Gordon as a potential teammate, and talk up how he thinks him and Gordon will be a great duo who could win a championship together. The Bulls best defense to this plan of attack by the Heat? Giving Ben Gordon a fair contract offer.

Ben Gordon Has One Foot Out the Door?

Wednesday, December 17th, 2008

Doug Thonus has released the 84th episode of the Bulls Beat podcast and he has some great inside information on the state of the team.

Ben Gordon has so far, according to Thonus, been acting internally like he has one foot out the door. Gordon has felt disrepsected by the organization, especially after the Bulls pulled their contract offer to Ben off the table and would not allow him to sign a long term contract

Off the record, everyone around the Bulls organization says that they want Kirk Hinrich over Ben Gordon and that they think that Kirk Hinrich is a better fit next to Derrick Rose than Ben Gordon. So far, Ben Gordon really has not been working with Derrick Rose in the way that Kirk Hinrich has.

Kirk Hinrich has been working with Derrick Rose even while injured, trying to be Rose’s buddy. Hinrich has tried to help Rose with some defensive things during games. The Bulls like that Kirk Hinrich has been a good organizational player and are very high on Kirk because of his devotion to the team.

Ben Gordon feels so disrespected from all of this, that he might be willing to agree to a trade when Kirk Hinrich comes back because he fears that his minutes might fall through the floor.

Gordon, if traded, loses all bird rights. Therefore, the team he is traded to, if they wish to maintain Gordon, has to have cap space to re-sign Gordon. Therefore, for Gordon to be traded, one of two things will have to be going on. The first possibility is that Gordon got strong indications from a team like Miami last season that he feels there is no risk of being a player with no bird rights. The second possibility is that a team like Miami, who will have capspace next offseason, will trade for Gordon now to get him adjusted to their system earlier than next offseason.

A team like San Antonio could be the perfect team to grab Ben Gordon as a one year rental. The Spurs could offer the Bulls some players that expire before 2010 in exchange for both Ben Gordon and Andres Nocioni. For a team like the Spurs whose window is closing, one year of Gordon would be worth it to them.

Also, according to Thonus, Vinny Del Negro is the man in charge. The offensive and defensive systems that the Bulls run are all his. Bernie Bickerstaff, Del Harris, and Bob Ociepka are just working with the players to help them improve and implement Vinny’s system.

Joakim Noah has remained pretty upbeat still. Noah is still trying to work hard. He feels that he is going to get things done.

Tyrus Thomas on the other hand is starting to get bullish. Thomas is disappointed in how his season has gone so far. Scott Skiles had told Tyrus not to take jumpers. Del Negro’s staff came in and told Thomas that it was okay for him to take jumpers. After his bad shooting games to start off the season, they came back and told him not to take jumpshots. Thomas is disappointed that they did not let him work through his shooting struggles a little longer.

You can listen to this podcast at bullsbeat.com

Gordon Confirms He Tried to Accept Deal

Sunday, November 2nd, 2008

Mike McGraw is reporting that Ben Gordon tried to accept the Bulls $55 million offer. Here is what Mike McGraw wrote in the Daily Herald this morning:

There may have been more animosity to the Ben Gordon contract negotiations than originally believed.

Gordon confirmed that before signing the one-year qualifying offer, which will make him an unrestricted free agent next summer, he tried to accept a long-term deal from the Bulls, believed to be worth around $55 million over six years.

The problem was a day earlier, Bulls management informed Gordon’s agent, Raymond Brothers, that the offer was no longer available. According to multiple sources, the Bulls were told Gordon had no intention of taking the offer, which is why it was rescinded. There is some disagreement over whether the Bulls were ever told Gordon had changed his mind at the last minute, but the offer had been on the table for more than two months, so there was plenty of time to say yes.

Asked if he knew the offer was withdrawn, Gordon said several things happened that led him to believe the offer was still on the table.

“I guess it was just a miscommunication of some sort,” Gordon said. “Things happen for a reason.”

Bulls management has been reluctant to comment, but there is little doubt the team was frustrated by the ordeal. Director of player personnel Gar Forman took the lead role in negotiations.

This is horrible. There is no reason why Ben Gordon should not be a Chicago Bull on the long term deal. The guy is not greedy, he agreed to accept a very low offer to stay with the Bulls. The Bulls would have Gordon locked up for $9.1 million per a year, and they would have avoided the luxury tax.

As a result of this, Gar Forman should either resign from the team or be fired. John Paxson should handle all future negotiations, especially when the Bulls are negotiating with a player like Gordon, who Paxson is close to.

Ben Gordon being on the qualifying offer is absolutely disgraceful for the Bulls organization. Even when the Bulls win with their strong arm negotiation tactics they still come out of the negotiations as an embarrassing loser.

Bulls Leave Gordon Shortchanged

Saturday, October 4th, 2008

The Chicago Bulls left a bitter taste in Ben Gordon’s mouth after only offering him a $55 million deal, not the $59 million deal that was widely reported throughout the contract negotiations.

“A lot of times, things that are reported to the media aren’t correct,” said Gordon, speaking to Mouthpiece Sports‘ Mitch Robinson. “I’m sitting there looking like, wow, was I offered that?”

The hardest part of the process for Gordon was being misunderstood, and people not understanding how things went down.

“Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see,” Gordon warned.

Respect, not money was the main roadblock in reaching a contract agreement.

“A lot of my decisions are made off of principle and respect,” said Gordon.

Gordon likely felt disrespected by the Bulls decreasing his offer from last year while substantially increasing Deng’s offer.

In addition to that, after stating all summer long that the luxury tax was the only thing blocking a larger contract offer from the Bulls to Gordon, it turns out the Bulls weren’t even offering Gordon the full amount they could while remaining under the luxury tax.

“It did leave a bit of a bitter taste,” Gordon said, “but at the same time, it’s a business. That’s something you got to understand quickly once you get into the NBA, it’s a business. It’s a cutthroat business.”

Despite all of this, Ben Gordon and his representation have remained professional throughout the process. Gordon’s representation, Raymond Brothers, stated that they are open to negotiations with the Bulls again next summer.

One can only hope that the Bulls learned from their mistakes and don’t repeat the same mistakes next summer, that they made this summer.

Thoughts on Ben Gordon on the Qualifying Offer

Thursday, October 2nd, 2008

Yesterday, Ben Gordon agreed to sign the qualifying offer, worth $6.4 million, with the Chicago Bulls. The situation is not the one that anyone wanted, and could end badly, more so on the Bulls side of things than Gordon’s side. Here are my thoughts on the entire qualifying offer.

Gordon doesn’t need the Bulls.

Throughout this process, various NBA analysts have said that Gordon would eventually come to the realization that him and the Bulls need each other, and take the Bulls $58 million, 6 year contract offer. The Bulls may need Gordon, but he doesn’t need them. The notion that the Bulls offense is the only one that can fit Gordon’s style is absolutely preposterous, there is nothing about an offense that forces Gordon to consistently take off balance shots that is perfectly suited for him. An offense perfectly suited for Gordon would allow him to run the offense from the top of the key, not pin him in the corner.

Rather, somewhere with a dominant shooting guard is probably the best place for Gordon, say in Miami with Dwyane Wade. A player like Dwyane Wade allows Gordon to be the point guard while not being the primary ball handler. He would be able to create his own offense some of the time while feed off of a player like Wade’s offense at other times.

The notion that a small shooting guard is so difficult to find a good role for on a team is a little reaching. I take it no one was thinking this when Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars led the Pistons to two straight championships? Or when Devin Harris and Jason Terry were the starting backcourt during the Maverick’s run to the finals in 2006. Size in the backcourt is overrated. The reason the Bulls failed defensively last year wasn’t because of their small backcourt, it was because Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, and Drew Gooden were awful on defense. The foundation to a strong defense comes from your interior defense. The ability to put guys on the perimeter on lockdown is only a bonus, not a necessary ingredient to a good defense.

Gordon is not a microwave.

Stop comparing Gordon to Vinnie Johnson and saying he should come off the bench because he’s like Vinnie Johnson. Those Pistons teams started their best two players in the backcourt. If we were to follow suit, Gordon would be one of our starters. Besides that, Gordon is a much better player than Johnson. Just run a quick look at their stats. Gordon’s career scoring average is higher than Johnson’s best season. Gordon is a very efficient scorer while Johnson was a very inefficient scorer. There is a reason why Ben Gordon is a starter in the NBA and Vinnie Johnson isn’t. Ben Gordon is simply a much better basketball player than Johnson.

Reinsdorf is the greedy one, not Gordon.

Let’s be honest, the Bulls’ $58 million offer was on the lower side of fair, and one with very little chance that Gordon would take. You could come up with a number of logical reasons why Gordon wouldn’t take this contract offer, such as he didn’t want to commit himself, when the money is so low, long term to a team who keeps forcing him to come off the bench, or that he didn’t want to get bungled up in this crowded backcourt.

What is Reinsdorf’s excuse for not making a higher offer? The NBA doesn’t have a hard salary cap that the Bulls were pushing against, so the Bulls could easily have upped Gordon’s offer a little bit. Why should I, as a fan, care about the luxury tax? Are you going to tell me that the most profitable team in the NBA over the past 10 years can’t pay $1-2 million in tax dollars to retain one of their two best players long term? It’s a shame that we don’t have an owner like Mark Cuban, who truly loves the team he puts on the floor.

Bulls were ridiculous in these negotiations.

Did the Bulls really expect Gordon to sign a contract less than what they offered last year? In any business, that is a good way to lose an employee, it is no different in the NBA. Did it really make sense for Gordon, who had a better season than Deng, to have his contract offer decreased from $10 million per a year last year, to $9.8 million this year, while Deng had his contract offer increased from $10 million to $11.8 million this year, potentially $13.3 million per a year after incentives? No, it doesn’t, and in doing this, the Bulls created a situation in which there was a very low chance of Gordon signing.

The Bulls got even more ridiculous when they pulled their $58 million offer before Wednesday. There was no reason, whatsoever, for Gordon to accept the Bulls offer before the deadline, even if he decided that he was going to take the Bulls offer. It was low, and Gordon did the right thing in waiting out until the deadline. If Gordon was planning on taking the Bulls deal at the last minute, the Bulls will have made a massive blunder.

This is exactly what you want out of your top scorer.

This is exactly what should be expected out of a team’s top scorer, their go to guy, and clutch extraordinaire. I don’t want our go to guy questioning whether he should be taking a shot right before he takes it. It is much better for a go to scorer to be confident in their actions. Gordon is confident in his ability, and believes he will be able to play himself into a better contract next year. It’s nice to be reassured that the guy who takes so many of our clutch shots (and the only one on our team who has had success during the clutch) has so much confidence in himself.

The Bulls should play Gordon.

So much has been made about the Bulls needing to clear the way for Thabo Sefolosha and Tyrus Thomas, so they can get playing time, so we can see what we have in them this year. Why doesn’t the same hold true for Gordon? No player has been more misused during the Skiles/Boylan era than Ben Gordon. Am I the only one who thinks that finding out whether we have an allstar/superstar in Ben Gordon is more important than finding out whether we have a good role player in Thabo Sefolosha? The Bulls should be learning from their mistake of trading Tyson Chandler, not repeating it. We don’t want to trade Gordon only to find out that he is a much better player than he was here, just because we were misusing him. This year, on the qualifying offer, is a better time to find out what we truly have in Gordon than never at all.

I think Vinny will play Gordon.

Vinny has to make a good impression on the league this year. Successfully managing the Gordon situation will go along way in establishing Vinny’s reputation around the league. First, he will be able to gain credibility among players as a guy who won’t screw them over. Second, playing Gordon a lot will probably be conducive to more winning. Nothing will help establish Vinny’s reputation around the league more than winning a lot of games.

The Bulls better play Gordon.

You don’t pay a guy $6.4 million not to play him. This isn’t a guy like Larry Hughes, where he can no longer contribute positively on a basketball court, and you’re simply stuck with them. The Bulls had a choice of whether they wanted to have Gordon back this year. If the Bulls didn’t want Gordon back, they could have just never extended the qualifying offer to him this summer, and saved themselves $6.4 million.

This is the second straight summer that the Bulls haven’t been able to get anything done with Ben Gordon. Next summer could be the third, and next year it might be three strikes and your out for the Bulls, if they fail to reach an agreement with Gordon.

Ben Gordon Accepts Qualifying Offer

Wednesday, October 1st, 2008

The Chicago Bulls released the following press release at 11 PM CT regarding the Ben Gordon situation.

October 1, 2008 – The Chicago Bulls today announced that guard Ben Gordon agreed to accept the one-year qualifying offer that had been tendered to him by the team.

Gordon will thus be under contract with the Bulls until the end of the 2008.09 season, at which time he will become an unrestricted free-agent.

The 6-3, 200-pound Gordon has appeared in 316 games, including 128 starting assignments, in four seasons with the Bulls. During that time, he has averaged 18.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg and 2.9 apg, while shooting .432 from the field and .416 from three-point range.

Last season in 72 games, he led the team in scoring for the third consecutive season, posting 18.6 ppg and shot a career-high .908 percent (third in NBA) from the free throw line. Gordon was selected by the Bulls in the first round (third overall) in the 2004 NBA Draft.

Ben Gordon will be the best player in NBA history ever to take the qualifying offer. The Bulls now risk losing Gordon as an unrestricted free agent next summer.

Ben Gordon Verbally Agrees to the Qualifying Offer

Sunday, September 28th, 2008

Victor Bellan is reporting that Ben Gordon has verbally agreed with the Bulls to sign the qualifying offer. Bellan expects now that the Bulls have cost certainty, that they may add a veteran big man to the roster in the coming weeks, possibly former Bull, Michael Ruffin.

Gordon confirmed to K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune Sunday, that he would show up for media day and the start of training camp.

This puts closure on a negotiation process that included Gordon reportedly getting offers from two Russian teams and a Greek team (CSKA Moscow shot down the Gordon rumor), flirtations from Dwyane Wade, and Ben Gordon saying that he wants to be a New York Knick.

This is the second straight summer that the Bulls and Gordon have failed to agree to a long-term deal. Gordon’s qualifying offer is worth $6.4 million, which is $1.4 million less than the first year deal on the 6 year $59 million contract that the Bulls were reportedly offering.

The Bulls will now be at risk of losing Gordon for nothing next summer, as Gordon becomes an unrestricted free agent.. They could try to trade him this season, but the qualifying offer comes with a no trade clause, and Gordon has no incentive to agree to any trades. The Miami Heat, who tried to trade for Gordon this summer and the Oklahoma Thunder seem to be two teams that could make a run at Gordon next summer.

Update: Multiple reports have come out stating that the Bulls are in negotiations with Ben Gordon on his contract extension. It looks like a long-term extension might get done after all. Up until this point the Bulls have not held any real negotiations, the two sides were just too far apart for any negotiations to take place.

This means that one of the sides is wavering. I would venture to guess that it is the Bulls side that is wavering. They likely saw the negative fan reaction that came out over having Ben Gordon on the qualifying offer and are beginning to take this more seriously as to avoid a repeat of last year. It is also possible that the Bulls are liking what they are seeing out of guys like Tyrus Thomas and Drew Gooden, and can now justify going into the luxury tax because it will be for a team that they see can be a winner.

Typically, negotiations don’t move until a deadline is set and approaching. So it is no surprise that no real negotiations have taken place up until this point. If the Bulls offer Ben Gordon Monta Ellis money, I really think that will be enough to sign him. The Bulls then will have the rest of the season to find a way to get under the luxury tax.

We will continue to update you as more news comes along.